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goldengrain
12-26-2009, 07:31 PM
From the NYTimes:

December 23, 2009, 2:43 pm
10 Red States Now Questioning Nelson Deal
By KATHARINE Q. SEELEYE

At least 10 states are now raising questions about the legality of the deal that Senator Ben Nelson, a Democrat, cut for his home state of Nebraska during the health care negotiations.

Under the agreement, which is on the verge of being approved Thursday by the Senate, Nebraska is permanently exempt from paying for its expansion of Medicaid, shoving that cost onto taxpayers in every other state.

Mr. Nelson was able to exercise such leverage because in exchange, he was providing the magical 60th vote that Democrats needed to advance their health care bill.

The deal has enraged other Senators, especially those from red states, whose Republican Senators didn’t bring home any pork at all because they were not part of the negotiations with Democratic leaders. Several other Democratic senators did get concessions for their states, but no deal has hit the nerve struck by Mr. Nelson’s.

Attorneys general in at least 10 states held a conference call late Tuesday to consider how they might challenge the deal, which they call federally subsidized vote-buying.

Some say it is certainly unfair and may be unconstitutional.

Troy King, the attorney general in Alabama, told MSNBC on Wednesday that the Constitution was not written to allow “the subsidization of a backroom deal.”

The Constitution, he said, was written to protect citizens from arbitrary and capricious decisions by Congress, not “for Congress to force Alabama to subsidize vote-buying.”

Bob Shrum, a Democratic strategist, defended the Nebraska deal on MSNBC. He said that brokering legislation was a long American tradition and said there was nothing unconstitutional about it. In fact, he said that Mr. King of Alabama had been “incoherent” in trying to back up his assertion that it was unconstitutional.

Could the growing backlash threaten passage of the health care bill? Mr. Nelson has said that he would vote for the bill only if nothing in it were changed. That makes it seem unlikely that Democratic leaders would try to undo the bill before the Thursday vote because doing so could threaten final passage.

But if anger builds — and especially if it spreads to Democratic senators — it may be harder for the Senate and House to keep the Nebraska deal intact when they meld their two bills in January.


I cannot believe it was approved with this clause.
What sellouts these Democrats are -
not just Obama, the majority are.

unionguy
12-27-2009, 05:41 AM
I cannot believe it was approved with this clause.
What sellouts these Democrats are -
not just Obama, the majority are.

Yeah, they are all corporate sellouts, Republicans and Democrats!!

bazzer
12-27-2009, 08:01 PM
Given the bill's massive size and the haste with which it was ramrodded through, I predict there will be more such hidden gems unearthed before we move to conference.

PeteE
12-28-2009, 10:22 AM
This is the part of the Constitution in Question.


The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Now, there are ways around this. What you do is provide exemptions to any state that meets a defnition and that definition is defined in such a way that Nebraska is the only state that meets that definition. But you are not technically saying Nebraska per se. If another state was exactly like Nebraska, they'd get the exemption too.

However, lawmakers might've gotten lazy and just written Nebraska is exempt -- which violates the Constitution.

I do wonder whether a class action lawsuit could be used one day to challenge this practice.